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OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
Between Jesse and paul sr i'm amazed their egos had room for Jr. I'd honestly watch the show if they would just focus on PJD builds. Funny how little drama there is when he has his own company yet the old man's place is a disaster. I keep rooting for Sr to crash and burn.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
I've watched this show from the start.
Why is this Jesse James thing even in it? He does cars right? I agree ditch everthing but PJD, get back to the builds without the bull****. All they need is Rick and they'll have the group that made the best bikes. I saw the MACHINE at SDCC and got to sit on it. It was BADASS. |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
I won't watch it as long as Jesse James is on the show. The Nazi lover ******* can go **** himself after what he did to Sandra Bullock by cheating with that painted ***** on that tattoo show. I sent a letter to the Discovery channel explaining just that.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
He already crashed from the Cadillac build off, and burned when he completely lost Mikey. I'd also say PJD has evolved from assembler to builder. The bikes are still sterile, but much better. The split even improved SR's bikes.
It's a promo thing, but it's fun seeing the Teutels tweaked. I liked the Biker Build Off series. Particularly Trevelene, Indian Larry, Chica, and Russell Mitchell. |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
Ya I Jesse is definitely trash.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
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Quite frankly, I wouldn't blame Jr if he never reconciled with Sr, not even until they plant Sr in the ground. He'll regret that somewhat, but then again, Sr has done everything possible to drive him away. |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
I'm with you guys on this one. Way too much drama with senior.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
Me too. I'll watch almost anything that has fabrication involved.
I'd bet Jesse is bumming that his life is sheet, and went to Disco to get a quick foot back in the door. Quote:
I loved that trike. Thought that the tank could have been as sculpted as the wheels, but that was a short time to pull that piece of coolness off. Just glad they didn't web-r-ize it. (Oh god I multi-quoted, please ignore that. )
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
I think the Gears of war trike was the freshest design that Jr has come up with and it for sure was a beast. I'd love to see it pop up in a Gears game if they make more or add it somehow as a DLC.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
They've got pics of the bikes built on the Discovery channel website.
Did someone forget to tell Sr they are supposed to build a bike? |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
I do get a laugh out of the episodes where Sr tries to help build a bike and everyone rolls their eyes when he has his back turned. Either he's been out of practice or he never was any good. I always liked Indian Larry's stuff.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
Speaking just about the bikes and not the personalities involved, this is the way I see it.
If you like a simple standard chopper look that's been around since the 60s, vote for Jesse James. If you like a creative design, unique use of materials/finishes, along with a very cool extra (exhaust pipes out the sides of the gas tank), vote for Paul Jr. Designs. If you like, ummm... ...nevermind. |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
Jr.
I like most of Jr's bike, and then the fenders went a little disco-liberace for me with the copper blow-out. Not sure about the smoke inside for the reveal. Sr. Pretty cool front end, but riding around with a box between your legs has gotta suck, but not suck as bad a haircut from a flame thrower at 60mph. It was still a snowmobile. Jesse His bike is beautiful, but the forks are weak and having to look around the side of your bike to drive is not my idea of fun. His engine sounded great. Nothing innovative about the design. It was pretty but his premise was compromised with the doin' it myself but then ten guys dropping buy. Not really walking the walk. |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
That Army bike behind Jr. looked really sweet, I hope that one is on a future show.
I've liked all the bikes Jr. has done so far, but this Mustang themed bike is my least favorite. I liked the silver and copper mix, it was too shiny for me and needed some color and maybe a brown leather seat. Taking the builders out of the mix, based on the bikes alone I'd have to vote for Jesse's bike- when compared to the other two. Sure his was nothing new, but it was a clean, good looking motorcycle. Out of the 3 bikes in this competion, Jesse's bike is the only one I would ride out in public. Personally, I hope Jr. wins. |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
I give credit to Jesse's bike for looking like a standard bike, but really, that doesn't show much. Jr's bike is more innovative, more curious looking, but yeah, it wouldn't last a 100 mile ride on it. Jesse's is definitely built for actual use, as opposed to Jr's built to show some neat twists on the bike.
Sr's is a pile of ****. |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
I was disappointed with the Gears of War trike. Great paint job, but instead of painting the metal plates, why not fabricate them? Just a layer of sheet metal riveted to the skin would have been great and give a real 3d effect.
Still a great trike, but it could have been better. Sr. needs to retire. Jr. needs to steal Rick. Jason Pohl needs to stop listening to the other guys and design bikes like he envisions them. It really isn't Sr. VS Jr., it is Jr. VS Pohl. They are the designers, everyone else seems to just do the grunt work. |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
Looking at juniors bike, i'd think it was a steampunk bike before I would a p51 mustang bike.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
Jesse James' - More traditional, but the high frame reminded me of Paul Sr.'s P.O.W. bike.
Paul Jr.'s - Low and lean, but far too "Liberace" for my tastes (as darth_myeek mentioned above). Paul Sr.'s - Interesting design, but I wouldn't call it a "bike". If I had the deciding vote Jesse James' bike would win, but I wouldn't want any of 'em in my garage. |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
I don't think we'll have to worry about Sr retiring one of these days he'll be making fun of Jr or tearing into someone and just fall over dead from a heart attack as angry as he seems to get. If he fakes half that he needs an oscar. I don't see how Sr's "bike" could even be in the competition as it isn't really a bike. It had some neat ideas but still looks like something an inventor built in his shed as a hobby.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
I think what bugs me about Jr's bike is the wheels.
Why would he go with a 3-bladed wooden spoke, instead of a 4-bladed propeller like a Mustang in black with white tips ? And the US Star emblem should have been painted like the plane, not done in copper. |
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
There are so many neat things on a P51 that Jr could have gone nuts with it. I'd personally would have gone with brushed aluminum and not the tacky copper.
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Re: OCC vs PJD vs Jesse James build-off.
I thought it was interesting how he made a point of having his kid count in German.
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