RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing

Jedifyfe · 12-11-2011, 12:53 AM **Thread Starter**

I just had to post that I am sitting here with Laamberry, Mike Davis, Matt Munson, Brian M, E-wan, Angel and Mike Sena watching a rare 16 mm Mono print of Star Wars. This is an original print with all the original dialog and even without A NEW HOPE at the beginning.

It was.....awesome!

E-Wan · 12-11-2011, 01:01 AM

So amazing! Huge thanks to Brian for having us and sharing this incredible print.

darth_myeek · 12-11-2011, 01:17 AM

.......

Laamberry · 12-11-2011, 01:35 AM

So awesome to see it the way it was meant to be!

niennumb1 · 12-11-2011, 01:43 AM

That wasn't George's original vision though. He knew there'd be HD and digital technology to truly make it the way he wanted one day and that is why they are the true masterpieces they are today on glorious Blu-Ray....

micdavis · 12-11-2011, 03:17 AM

Terrific as always. Thanks Brian.

It was great seeing all you folks too.

Colin Droidmilk · 12-11-2011, 03:28 AM

Lucky. How was the colour? The only pre-digital remastering version I have is an early '80s VHS tape which is very bleached out, but still represents a faint link to the original theatre presentation...I would love to be able to compare this vid with the print you saw to see what, colourwise, they have in common with each other and what they don't share with the later versions, from the digitally remastered VHS editions on.

micdavis · 12-11-2011, 03:33 AM

Film turns to red over time unless it's what's called an IB Technicolor print.

This print IS shifting to red but with a couple filters it's still has nice color. Especially reel three.

Peace Hunter · 12-11-2011, 11:39 PM

And you bastaids didn't invite me!!!

Robert

kimncris · 12-11-2011, 11:50 PM

sounds like that print needs to make the prop part rounds. so 16mm - was it cropped to 4x3?

SSgt Burton · 12-11-2011, 11:59 PM

Insanely jealous!

Man I saw SW in the summer of '77, but I'm betting the version I watched said "A New Hope" etc. Would have loved to see the uber original version!

Kevin

micdavis · 12-12-2011, 12:04 AM

The "bastardized" version with that label on it didn't appear until the re-release of Star Wars just before the release of TESB.

They added the Episode 4, on that release.

So if you saw it summer of '77 it was probably free of the horrible label.

SSgt Burton · 12-12-2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by micdavis

So if you saw it summer of '77 it was probably free of the horrible label.

Cool! Wish I could remember it. I was seven at the time.

Kevin

Jedifyfe · 12-12-2011, 12:56 AM **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimncris

sounds like that print needs to make the prop part rounds. so 16mm - was it cropped to 4x3?

Nope. It was Cinemascope.

niennumb1 · 12-12-2011, 01:07 AM

Methinks there needs to be a nice professional HD telecine transfer of that made and distributed ASAP!

micdavis · 12-12-2011, 01:11 AM

The laserdiscs and rips are far better than this is (except for that extra label). And frankly the mono soundtrack drives me nuts. I grew up on the six channel stereo mix.

The real kick is the full on click/clack of the projector behind you and the Cinemascope.

PHArchivist · 12-12-2011, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedifyfe

I just had to post that I am sitting here with Laamberry, Mike Davis, Matt Munson, Brian M, E-wan, Angel and Mike Sena watching a rare 16 mm Mono print of Star Wars. This is an original print with all the original dialog and even without A NEW HOPE at the beginning.

It was.....awesome!

Post-orgasmic glow, huh...?

Thanks for the invite, guys. Sorry I couldn't make it. My evening event ran longer than expected.

Treadwell · 12-12-2011, 02:57 PM

"Episode IV A New Hope" was added for the '81 re-release, not before Empire.

Sounds like a fun viewing!

Jedifyfe · 12-12-2011, 03:23 PM **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHArchivist

Post-orgasmic glow, huh...?

Thanks for the invite, guys. Sorry I couldn't make it. My evening event ran longer than expected.

Sorry you couldn't make it also, though you were referenced a few times regarding the Death Star shots that were reversed.

Jack T Chance · 12-12-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jedifyfe

Sorry you couldn't make it also, though you were referenced a few times regarding the Death Star shots that were reversed.

JUST the Death Star shots? What about the hangar scene where Han, R2, et al are reversed? Or when Darth Vader or Obi Wan is reversed?

Here's a tip, George: If you want to be able to flip the image to a mirror image, make the costumes/character designs 100% SYMMETRICAL! Then we won't notice it when you pull that crap! Otherwise, film the scene the right way 'round the first time!!!

Jedifyfe · 12-12-2011, 04:27 PM **Thread Starter**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack T Chance

JUST the Death Star shots?

Well since Rob is the person that is making the Death Star...then yeah, we only talked about Rob during those scenes.

We discussed the other scenes but Rob was no mentioned...sorry Rob.

PHArchivist · 12-12-2011, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedifyfe

Well since Rob is the person that is making the Death Star...then yeah, we only talked about Rob during those scenes.

We discussed the other scenes but Rob was no mentioned...sorry Rob.

Thought about throwing it out there for you and others to come by after, but got sort of settled in for the night.

By the way - soccer is OVER (until 1/23/12 anyway) and am back to drilling AND I have a new DSLR to be able to take decent pics with the ligjhts!

MattMunson · 12-12-2011, 11:29 PM

Rob, you were sorely missed! there is already discussion going around about a possible ESB night, so hopefully you will be able to attend. Don't be a stranger!

CTF · 12-12-2011, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Treadwell

"Episode IV A New Hope" was added for the '81 re-release, not before Empire.

You sure? I was always under the impression, just like Mic, that it was '79.

Quote:

Originally Posted by micdavis

Film turns to red over time unless it's what's called an IB Technicolor print.

More like pink!

The Wars was one of the last flicks to be printed on a Tech print.

micdavis · 12-13-2011, 12:19 AM

I know a guy who owns a 70mm print including the six channel sound track.

It is well known in the real world that any lab or techinician that assists in any kind of transfer with be come down on like Keysersoze.

And after all that kind of equipment doesn't grow on trees.

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Jedifyfe • Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,404	RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing I just had to post that I am sitting here with Laamberry, Mike Davis, Matt Munson, Brian M, E-wan, Angel and Mike Sena watching a rare 16 mm Mono print of Star Wars. This is an original print with all the original dialog and even without A NEW HOPE at the beginning. It was.....awesome! Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post Last edited by Jedifyfe; 12-11-2011 at 01:40 AM.

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12-11-2011, 01:43 AM	#5
niennumb1 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,552	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing That wasn't George's original vision though. He knew there'd be HD and digital technology to truly make it the way he wanted one day and that is why they are the true masterpieces they are today on glorious Blu-Ray.... Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-11-2011, 03:17 AM	#6
micdavis Foux Du Fafa Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10,450	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing Terrific as always. Thanks Brian. It was great seeing all you folks too. Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-11-2011, 03:28 AM	#7
Colin Droidmilk Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,024	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing Lucky. How was the colour? The only pre-digital remastering version I have is an early '80s VHS tape which is very bleached out, but still represents a faint link to the original theatre presentation...I would love to be able to compare this vid with the print you saw to see what, colourwise, they have in common with each other and what they don't share with the later versions, from the digitally remastered VHS editions on. Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-11-2011, 03:33 AM	#8
micdavis Foux Du Fafa Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10,450	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing Film turns to red over time unless it's what's called an IB Technicolor print. This print IS shifting to red but with a couple filters it's still has nice color. Especially reel three. Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-11-2011, 11:39 PM	#9
Peace Hunter Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,563	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing And you bastaids didn't invite me!!! Robert Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-11-2011, 11:50 PM	#10
kimncris Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Dallas Posts: 4,030	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing sounds like that print needs to make the prop part rounds. so 16mm - was it cropped to 4x3? Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-11-2011, 11:59 PM	#11
SSgt Burton Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,327	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing Insanely jealous! Man I saw SW in the summer of '77, but I'm betting the version I watched said "A New Hope" etc. Would have loved to see the uber original version! Kevin Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-12-2011, 12:04 AM	#12
micdavis Foux Du Fafa Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10,450	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing The "bastardized" version with that label on it didn't appear until the re-release of Star Wars just before the release of TESB. They added the Episode 4, on that release. So if you saw it summer of '77 it was probably free of the horrible label. Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-12-2011, 01:07 AM	#15
niennumb1 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,552	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing Methinks there needs to be a nice professional HD telecine transfer of that made and distributed ASAP! Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-12-2011, 01:11 AM	#16
micdavis Foux Du Fafa Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10,450	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing The laserdiscs and rips are far better than this is (except for that extra label). And frankly the mono soundtrack drives me nuts. I grew up on the six channel stereo mix. The real kick is the full on click/clack of the projector behind you and the Cinemascope. Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-12-2011, 02:57 PM	#18
Treadwell Join Date: Aug 1999 Posts: 15,165	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing "Episode IV A New Hope" was added for the '81 re-release, not before Empire. Sounds like a fun viewing! Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-12-2011, 11:29 PM	#23
MattMunson Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 7,000	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing Rob, you were sorely missed! there is already discussion going around about a possible ESB night, so hopefully you will be able to attend. Don't be a stranger! Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post

12-13-2011, 12:19 AM	#25
micdavis Foux Du Fafa Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10,450	Re: RARE 16 mm print of STAR WARS viewing I know a guy who owns a 70mm print including the six channel sound track. It is well known in the real world that any lab or techinician that assists in any kind of transfer with be come down on like Keysersoze. And after all that kind of equipment doesn't grow on trees. Share Share this post on Share on Facebook Tweet this Post Submit to StumbleUpon Submit to Reddit! Digg this Post